Would like to upgrade CMA-535

Hello all, I’m new to the page and the entire laser community. I picked up this machine a week ago its a CMA-535 70 watt C02 system, original sold by Jamieson’s laser. The software for the machine is Smartcarve 4.1 (not good). I have a photo of the control board.
The machine is 220VAC

I would like to upgrade this system to the Cohesion3D LaserBoard along with proper motor drivers and maybe a camera. I just don’t know where to start or what to get…?

Just want to say thank you in advanced
Eric

Yay, fun. Please send a lot more pictures, of everything.

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Okay!  Here we go! 

A couple questions I have from my current setup.

  1. Will I need to change out the power supply from 37v to 24v?
  2. Will my current steppers work with C3D board? Or will they need to be upgraded as well?
  3. How do I verify my laser driver is capable with the C3D board?? Or is it a PWM signal that is all that is needed??

Im thinking my shopping list would look like this…C3D board, stepper drivers, wire harnesses for stepper drivers, camera and maybe a 24v power supply???..

Thank you
Eric

Wondering if anyone has any comments or input. Thank you.

Sorry for the delay, in high gear here preparing for a trade show this weekend.

From your pictures, I have no idea what the green PCB or the black box thing with yellow wires going to it is.

The main question is what kind of motors does your machine have and are there external stepper drivers (black boxes typically) already installed driving them. This is what I do not see from your photos, but is indicated in the wiring diagram you provided.

To answer your questions:

Depends on above, but C3D Board comes with 24v power supply for itself included.

Depends on what they are, see above.

Is there a laser power supply that looks like this anywhere? If so, we can control it.

Fundamentally, all we care about is driving an X and Y motor, reading some switches/ sensors to home the head, and telling the laser to fire.

Please do some investigative work to identify more details about those aspects of your machine.

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No worries. Thanks for getting back to me.

So the laser does have a power supply (sorry I forgot to attach the photos before). It doesn’t look anything like the one you posted.
It’s got power in 220vac
A SubD9 connector utilizing 6 wires (R,BLU,GRN,Y, BLK and shield) I have also attached a close photo of the controller board termination. The termination points are in Chinese. I would assume if we could figure out what it says, wiring the new board would be simple…
It also has power and ground out to the laser.

I assume this is driver board for the steppers…

I’m not sure what the yellow wires are attached to either. Maybe resistors…??

So the system has two different sized steppers. One is a 57HS09-15 (nema23) “X” and the other is a 42HS03-15 (nema17) “Y”
Not sure what the -15 means. Both are Leadshine motors

Google says both are 2 phase 8 lead motors.

(https://www.cloudraylaser.com/products/leadshine-2-phase-stepper-motor-42hs03-nema17)

I’m okay with gutting this thing if that’s what’s needed to make it work with other software. My concern is figuring out the laser PS.
Thanks
Eric

It looks like you can use the existing stepper drivers if you want. They appear to use the same 3-wire control scheme as most others: +5V, DIR, and STEP. It also appears that the end stops are routed through the same board and connect to the controller through the white ribbon cables as well.

I cannot make out the wiring scheme for the laser power supply. The labeling is cryptic at best. At the moment, this is the show stopper.

Yes

Thank you for the encouraging information. I have sent the the original sales persons a message asking if they would have a schematic with more details on the CB to LPS. I’ve also reached out to a few of my Chinese colleagues for help in translation.
Fingers crossed… hopefully I’ll have some more information.
Thanks again
Eric

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Success!!
I was able to get the board layout from the sales rep. Please see attached photos.
I feel this will help out immensely.

You should be able to control the laser PSU with the Laser Board. Translating the datasheet above we get:

pin 49 laser switch control 1, this should be the same as the “TTL” or “TL/TH” signal in the Laser Board install instructions
pin 50 LGND, this is just the ground or common connection
pin 51 laser power control, this will be labeled as “IN” in the Laser Board install instructions

Just make sure you thoroughly document the existing configuration before you start tearing it apart. Also be sure to read through the install instructions while looking at the current setup. Plan everything out ahead of time. We can only do so much over the internet to help you.